TRANSLATION: Lord Brahma said: When the unlimitedly powerful Lord assumed the form of a boar as a pastime, just to lift the planet earth, which was drowned in the great ocean of the universe called the Garbhodaka, the first demon [Hiranyaksa] appeared, and the Lord pierced him with His tusk.
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PURPORT: Since the beginning of creation, the demons and the demigods, or the Vaisnavas, are always the two classes of living beings to dominate the planets of the universes. Lord Brahma is the first demigod, and Hiranyaksa is the first demon in this universe. Only under certain conditions do the planets float as weightless balls in the air, and as soon as these conditions are disturbed, the planets may fall down in the Garbhodaka Ocean, which covers half the universe. The other half is the spherical dome within which the innumerable planetary systems exist. The floating of the planets in the weightless air is due to the inner constitution of the globes, and the modernized drilling of the earth to exploit oil from within is a sort of disturbance by the modern demons and can result in a greatly harmful reaction to the floating condition of the earth. A similar disturbance was created formerly by the demons headed by Hiranyaksa (the great exploiter of the gold rush), and the earth was detached from its weightless condition and fell down into the Garbhodaka Ocean. The Lord, as maintainer of the whole creation of the material world, therefore assumed the gigantic form of a boar with a proportionate snout and picked up the earth from within the water of Garbhodaka. Sri Jayadeva Gosvami, the great Vaisnava poet, sang as follows:
vasati dasana-sikhare dharani tava lagna
sasini kalanka-kaleva nimagna
kesava dhrta-sukara-rupa
jaya jagadisa hare
“O Kesava! O Supreme Lord who have assumed the form of a boar! O Lord! The planet earth rested on Your tusks, and it appeared like the moon engraved with spots.”
Such is the symptom of an incarnation of the Lord. The incarnation of the Lord is not the concocted idea of fanciful men who create an incarnation out of imagination. The incarnation of the Lord appears under certain extraordinary circumstances like the above-mentioned occasion, and the incarnation performs a task which is not even imaginable by the tiny brain of mankind. The modern creators of the many cheap incarnations may take note of the factual incarnation of God as the gigantic boar with a suitable snout to carry the planet earth.
When the Lord appeared to pick up the earth, the demon of the name Hiranyaksa tried to create a disturbance in the methodical functions of the Lord, and therefore he was killed by being pierced by the Lord’s tusk. According to Srila Jiva Gosvami, the demon Hiranyaksa was killed by the hand of the Lord. Therefore his version is that after being killed by the hand of the Lord, the demon was pierced by the tusk. Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura confirms this version.
Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.7.1
Bhagavan: You say in the, I think it’s in the Second Canto of Srimad-Bhagavatam, that by doing so much drilling into the earth, they actually disturbed the rotation of the earth.
Prabhupada: Yes, we can think like that. Just like the plane, aeroplane, is flying. There is sufficient petrol stock. Is it not? So the world has got sufficient petrol stock. If you do not know how it is being used, maybe due to this petrol, it is floating. And if you take away the petrol stock, it may drop. Everything is there. There is a purpose. Purnam idam. There is full purpose. Not that whimsically petrol is there within the earth. There is some purpose.
Devotee: What they do, Srila Prabhupada, is take the petrol out and put salt water, because they know there can be a imbalance. And then they put salt water in the holes.
Prabhupada: But water cannot produce gas. Petrol produces gas. Maybe due to that gas, it is floating. Because we have got practical experience. When there is gas, you can float anything.
Dhananjaya: Like a balloon.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Morning Walk May 27, 1974, Rome
Ramesvara: And then you wrote that one day the people will…, the taxes will become so great that the people will revolt, refuse to pay, and then the government will be finished. There will be chaos. You’re giving all these warnings, Srila Prabhupada. You’ve also warned them about taking the oil from the earth.
Prabhupada: Eh? Yes. I think of these things. No, there is analogy, just like when you fly in the sky, you take sufficient petrol in the wings, sufficient, so many thousands of gallons. And if there is no petrol, then you’ll fall down. So I theorize these things, (laughs) that these planets are floating in the air on account of petrol. If you finish the petrol stock, then we drop. Analogy.
Morning Walk June 11, 1976
Prabhupada: Law of gravity… The big, big planets are floating in the air. Now you can explain how it is it’s floating. The hint is already there in the Bhagavad-gita, that He enters. Vistabhya idam krtsnam ekamsena sthito jagat, (Sanskrit) that “I enter into this universe, and by My prowess they are floating.” These hints are there. Now you are a scientist; if you are actually devotee, then you try to explain from your scientific explanation that this floating is possible because God has entered within it. That is your duty. And because you’re scientist, your explanation from the scientific point of view, how God has entered, how He is acting, that will be very well received by the public. So that will be great service. Actually that is the fact. It is already stated there that “I enter.” We can understand. Yes, we believe. I’ll explain. Just like that balloon. What is that gas? Hydrogen gas?
Martin: Helium.
Prabhupada: Huh?
Martin: Helium gas.
Prabhupada: Helium gas. So that helium gas has entered within the balloon and it is floating. (laughter) So if the helium gas can float, cannot God float? If helium gas has so much power, God is less than helium gas or He is more than helium gas? So what is the difficulty to understand? God says, “I enter.” So similarly, the helium gas enters and it makes possible that it floats. So what is the difficulty to understand? I see in my eyes. So He can become big helium gas. Just like Krsna says, raso ‘ham apsu kaunteya: “I am the taste of the water.” Water is important. We are drinking water for the taste. That taste is Krsna. Similarly, if you explain this law of gravitation, which we have discovered, is Krsna, prove it by your scientific knowledge, that will be your service. Actually that is a fact. That is the fact. But you have to explain, just like I have given you this example. This is scientific. As you can float a balloon by creating helium gas, so there must be some gas like that; Krsna enters into each and every planet or universe and it floats, that’s all. They, not only the planets are floating, the universes are also floating. So you accept this theory or not? If not, clearly explain.
Martin: I, I, I cannot reject it.
Prabhupada: That’s…
Martin: Because you know more about it than I do.
Prabhupada: Thank you very much. That should be the attitude. That is the way of understanding. Upadeksyanti te jnanam jnaninas tattva-darsinah. Those who are Tattva-darsih, those who have seen the truth, we have to take knowledge from them. That is the direction in the Bhagavad-gita, not from the third-class men.
Room Conversation Mexico, May 4, 1972
You can manufacture a toy sputnik to fly in the sky, to float in the sky, by so many mechanical arrangements. As soon as the machine is gone out, immediately falls down. But just see what machine is there, millions and trillions of airplanes, big, big planet with big, big mountains, oceans, they are floating. So that is His intelligence. Your intelligence may be that you can also float a big airplane. But what is that big airplane in comparison to this big, big planet? It is nothing. There is also petrol stock, and in the airplane there is also petrol stock. Perhaps it is floating by petrol, and you are taking out all the petrols. One day it will fall down. Yes. You are disturbing God’s arrangement. Just like we had the history of Lord Varaha’s lifting this planet, earth planet, from the Garbhodaka Ocean. So any time it can fall down. But it is being floated by the supreme power. Otherwise by calculation how such a big planet can float just like a cotton swab? Yes, it is floating. Not only one, millions. So that is explained in the Bhagavad-gita, gam avisya ojasa dharayami. He enters. He enters in each and every planet, in each and every universe, each and every atom.
Prabhupada Lecture Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.38 Los Angeles, December 16, 1973
Now, so many big, big planets, huge planets… This earth planet is only… It’s a minute, small planet, and still, you’ll see, on this planet there are so big oceans like Atlantic and Pacific, and so big mountains, and what to speak of your skyscraper buildings. With all this load it is floating in the air just like a swab of cotton. Who is controlling? Can you float even a small piece of grain in the space? You can say “Law of gravity” and so many other things, but you cannot utilize it. Or you can put it in… Your machine, airplane, is running on the space–but so long the machine is working. As soon as your petrol is finished, immediately it will fall down. Immediately. But these big, big planets… This is only one of the small. The sun planet is fourteen hundred thousand times bigger than this planet. So that is also… We can see the sun is floating in one corner of this big space. So how you can say that it is not controlled, it is floating out of its own self? No. The answer is there in the Bhagavad-gita, that “I enter into this material planets, and then I keep it floating.” Gam avisya aham, dharayamy aham ojasa. Dharayamy aham ojasa. Something mak… Just like you float this airplane; so somebody has entered within it, that driver or pilot. So actually, he is keeping this airplane floating, not the machine. This is simple truth. So if you take this analogy, then this planet is floating, there must be somebody entering here. Somebody must have entered. So Krsna says, “I have entered.” So what is the difficulty to understand how it is keeping floating? The analogy is there. Everyone can understand that this big airplane is floating in the sky because the pilot has entered within it. Similarly, if this planet is floating, then somebody, either you or somebody, God, has entered it. And that answer is there in the Bhagavad-gita, that “I enter into these planets and therefore I keep them floating.” That is our answer. And the scientists, they say the law of gravitation… How far it is true…
Sri Isopanisad, Mantra 1 Los Angeles, April 29, 1970
TRANSLATION: I enter into each planet, and by My energy they stay in orbit. I become the moon and thereby supply the juice of life to all vegetables.
PURPORT: It is understood that all the planets are floating in the air only by the energy of the Lord. The Lord enters into every atom, every planet, and every living being. That is discussed in the Brahma-samhita. It is said there that one plenary portion of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Paramatma, enters into the planets, the universe, the living entity, and even into the atom. So due to His entrance, everything is appropriately manifested. When the spirit soul is there, a living man can float on the water, but when the living spark is out of the body and the body is dead, it sinks. Of course when it is decomposed it floats just like straw and other things, but as soon as the man is dead, he at once sinks in the water. Similarly, all these planets are floating in space, and this is due to the entrance of the supreme energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. His energy is sustaining each planet, just like a handful of dust. If someone holds a handful of dust, there is no possibility of the dust’s falling, but if one throws it in the air, it will fall down. Similarly, these planets, which are floating in air, are actually held in the fist of the universal form of the Supreme Lord. By His strength and energy, all moving and unmoving things stay in their place. It is said that because of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the sun is shining and the planets are steadily moving. Were it not for Him, all the planets would scatter, like dust in air, and perish. Similarly, it is due to the Supreme Personality of Godhead that the moon nourishes all vegetables. Due to the moon’s influence, the vegetables become delicious. Without the moonshine, the vegetables can neither grow nor taste succulent. Human society is working, living comfortably and enjoying food due to the supply from the Supreme Lord. Otherwise, mankind could not survive. The word rasatmakah is very significant. Everything becomes palatable by the agency of the Supreme Lord through the influence of the moon.
Bhagavad-gita 15.13
TRANSLATION: My dear Lord, You are always unborn. Once, in the form of the original boar, You rescued me from the waters in the bottom of the universe. Through Your own energy You created all the physical elements, the senses and the heart, for the maintenance of the world.
PURPORT: This refers to the time when Lord Krsna appeared as the supreme boar, Varaha, and rescued the earth, which had been merged in water. The asura Hiranyaksa had dislocated the earth from its orbit and thrown it beneath the waters of the Garbhodaka Ocean. Then the Lord, in the shape of the original boar, rescued the earth.
Srimad-Bhagavatam 4.17.34
TRANSLATION: The Lord placed the earth within His sight on the surface of the water and transferred to her His own energy in the form of the ability to float on the water. While the enemy stood looking on, Brahma, the creator of the universe, extolled the Lord, and the other demigods rained flowers on Him.
PURPORT: Those who are demons cannot understand how the Supreme Personality of Godhead floated the earth on water, but to devotees of the Lord this is not a very wonderful act. Not only the earth but many, many millions of planets are floating in the air, and this floating power is endowed upon them by the Lord; there is no other possible explanation. The materialists can explain that the planets are floating by the law of gravitation, but the law of gravitation works under the control or direction of the Supreme Lord. That is the version of Bhagavad-gita, which confirms, by the Lord’s statement, that behind the material laws or nature’s laws and behind the growth, maintenance, production and evolution of all the planetary systems–behind everything–is the Lord’s direction. The Lord’s activities could be appreciated only by the demigods, headed by Brahma, and therefore when they saw the uncommon prowess of the Lord in keeping the earth on the surface of the water, they showered flowers on Him in appreciation of His transcendental activity.
Srimad Bhagavatam 3.18.8
TRANSLATION: Sri Saunaka inquired: O Suta Gosvami, after the earth was again situated in its orbit, what did Svayambhuva Manu do to show the path of liberation to persons who were to take birth later on?
PURPORT: The appearance of the Lord as the first boar incarnation occurred during the time of Svayambhuva Manu, whereas the present age is in the period of Vaivasvata Manu. Each Manu’s period lasts seventy-two times the cycle of four ages, and one cycle of ages equals 4,320,000 solar years. Thus 4,320,000 x 72 solar years is the reign of one Manu. In each Manu’s period there are many changes in many ways, and there are fourteen Manus within one day of Brahma. It is understood here that Manu creates scriptural regulations for the salvation of the conditioned souls, who come to the material world for material enjoyment. The Lord is so kind that any soul who wants to enjoy in this material world is given full facility for enjoyment, and at the same time he is shown the path of salvation. Saunaka Rsi, therefore, inquired from Suta Gosvami: “What did Svayambhuva Manu do after the reinstatement of the earth in its orbital situation?”
Srimad Bhagavatam 3.20.1
TRANSLATION: The cow-shaped earth continued: My dear King, I am just like a strong boat, and all the paraphernalia of the world is standing upon me. If you break me to pieces, how can you protect yourself and your subjects from drowning?
PURPORT: Beneath the entire planetary system is the garbha water. Lord Visnu lies on this garbha water, and from His abdomen a lotus stem grows, and all the planets within the universe are floating in the air, being supported by this lotus stem. If a planet is destroyed, it must fall into the water of garbha. The earth therefore warned King Prthu that he could gain nothing by destroying her. Indeed, how would he protect himself and his citizens from drowning in the garbha water? In other words, outer space may be compared to an ocean of air, and each and every planet is floating on it just as a boat or island floats on the ocean. Sometimes planets are called dvipa, or islands, and sometimes they are called boats. Thus the cosmic manifestation is partially explained in this reference by the cow-shaped earth.
Srimad Bhagavatam 4.17.21
Hare Prabhu. This is so true, here in north of Brazil oil is appearing from the soil. The earth is in trouble. Thats absolute truth. Thats why the “elite” is so worried with oil. They want to destroy earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFSR9YSAtq0
They are trying to control, I think, not destroy. The jews cannot create . They can only parasitize.
The whole Bhu-mandala fell in the ocean as SP confirmed in a convo. Earth is flat and stationary according to the Bhagavatam these quotes aren’t conclusive he didn’t know and admitted such. You’re wasting your time pursuing this sorry to say.
Because when i have finished with you man snake, only resnicks anus will give you shelter from the shame of blaspheming Srila Prabhupada!!!!
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>>> Prabhupada taught guru, sadhu, shastra. If guru said Jambudvipa is this planet earth, you need to understand the Vedic definition of (1) Earth and (2) Jambudvipa in order to understand what he means. You are repeating Srila Prabhupada without understanding the meaning of words.
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>>> Only 500 years ago, the Vaisnavas had the understanding that Earth is 4 billion miles in diameter and that Ananta-sesha is holding the huge circular Earth:
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>>> yanra eka-phane rahe sarshapa-akara
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>>> “The universe, which measures five hundred million yojanas in diameter, rests on one of His hoods like a mustard seed.” (Sri Chaitanya-charitamrita Adi-lila, 5.119)
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>>> Although Srila Prabhupada has translated Earth as ‘universe’, the specific name for Earth is used (prithivi) and is measured at 500 million yojana (4 billion miles). The name Pritivi is used in the famous statement by Lord Chaitanya in the famous statement regarding ‘every town and village on the Earth’ (prithivite ache yata nagaradi grama).
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>> Mukunda dasa: Yes Man Snake and goyim slave of the jew resnick, Prithivi can also mean universe. Prabhupada said Sanskrit words have multiply meanings:
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>> Of course, Caitanya Mahaprabhu was not a fool, and certainly the Vedanta is not for fools. One needs sufficient education, and one must attain a certain status before he can understand the Vedanta. In each and every word there are volumes of meanings, and there are many commentaries by Sankaracarya and Ramanujacarya, huge volumes in Sanskrit. But how can we understand Vedanta? It is not possible. It may be possible for one person or two persons to understand, but for the mass of people it is not possible.
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>> Prabhupada SSR – Krsna Consciousness–the Yoga for the Modern Age
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>> Is we clear now man snake or Mr. VEDA-VADA-RATA????
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>> The veda-vada-ratas give their own explanations of the Vedas, neglecting the authority of great teachers (acaryas). (like prithivi means earth even when Prabhupada says universe) They (the prostitutes like Mudhadvisa and Mark Flathead) also tend to raise some unscrupulous person (man snake mayesvara) from among themselves and present him as the leading exponent of Vedic knowledge (like Vedic cosmology) . Such veda-vada-ratas are especially condemned in this mantra by the very appropriate Sanskrit words vidyayam ratah. Vidyayam refers to the study of the Vedas because the Vedas are the origin of all knowledge (vidya), and ratah means “those engaged.” Vidyayam ratah thus means “those engaged in the study of the Vedas.” The so-called students of the Vedas are condemned herein because they are ignorant of the actual purpose of the Vedas on account of their disobeying the acaryas. (taking shelter of an envious jew as his guru and neglecting all Prabhupada’s statements about the egg shaped Earth PLANET) Such veda-vada-ratas search out meanings in every word of the Vedas to suit their own purposes. (like when Prabhupada says Prithivi means universe he tries to search out another meaning like earth to support his talmudic flat earth doctrine) They do not know that the Vedic literature is a collection of extraordinary books that can be understood only through the chain of disciplic succession.
>> One must approach a bona fide spiritual master in order to understand the transcendental message of the Vedas. (Yes you have to learn from Prabhupada THE PERSON BHAGAVATAM and accept all his statements YOU CANNOT LEARN FROM THE ENVIOUS JEW RESNICK, and all the other TALMUDISTS, IS WE CLEAR???)
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>> Isopanisad Mantra 9
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>> Also Prabhupada confirmed the meaning of Prithivi as universe in the above verse you TWIST in Srimad Bhagavatam as follows:
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>> Srimad Bhagavatam 5.17. TEXT 21
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>> yam ahur asya sthiti-janma-samyamam
>> tribhir vihinam yam anantam rsayah
>> na veda siddhartham iva kvacit sthitam
>> bhu-mandalam murdha-sahasra-dhamasu
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>> SYNONYMS
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>> yam–whom; ahuh–they said; asya–of the material world; sthiti–the maintenance; janma–creation; samyamam–annihilation; tribhih–these three; vihinam–without; yam–which; anantam–unlimited; rsayah–all the great sages; na–not; veda–feels; siddha-artham–a mustard seed; iva–like; kvacit–where; sthitam–situated; bhu-mandalam–the universe; (NOTE bhu-mandalam can also mean universe) murdha-sahasra-dhamasu–on the hundreds and thousands of hoods of the Lord.
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>> Lord Siva continued: All the great sages accept the Lord as the source of creation, maintenance and destruction, although He actually has nothing to do with these activities. Therefore the Lord is called unlimited. Although the Lord in His incarnation as Sesa holds all the universes (Bhu-mandalam) on His hoods, each universe feels no heavier than a mustard seed to Him. Therefore, what person desiring perfection will not worship the Lord?
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>> The incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead known as Sesa or Ananta has unlimited strength, fame, wealth, knowledge, beauty and renunciation. As described in this verse, Ananta’s strength is so great that the innumerable universes rest on His hoods. He has the bodily features of a snake with thousands of hoods, and since His strength is unlimited, all the universes resting on His hoods feel no heavier than mustard seeds. We can just imagine how insignificant a mustard seed is on the hood of a serpent. In this connection, the reader is referred to Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila, Chapter Five, verses 117-125. (119 is the verse you twist veda-vata-rata man snake) There it is stated that Lord Visnu’s incarnation as the serpentine Ananta Sesa Naga supports all the universes on His hoods. By our calculation, a universe may be very, very heavy, but because the Lord is ananta (unlimited), He feels the weight to be no heavier than a mustard seed.
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>> pancasat-koti-yojana prthivi-vistara
>> yanra eka-phane rahe sarsapa-akara
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>> pancasat–fifty; koti–ten millions; yojana–eight miles; prthivi–of the universe; vistara–breadth; yanra–whose; eka-phane–on one of the hoods; rahe–stays; sarsapa-akara–like a mustard seed.
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>> The universe, which measures five hundred million yojanas in diameter, rests on one of His hoods like a mustard seed.
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>> The Lord of Svetadvipa expands Himself as Sesa Naga, who sustains all the planets upon His innumerable hoods. (he sustains all the universes and also all the planets) These huge global spheres are compared to grains of mustard resting on the spiritual hoods of Sesa Naga. (So if you want to take it that prthivi is the earth man snake then Prabhupada says it is a HUGE GLOBAL SPHERE, IS WE CLEAR???? YOU CAN’T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS VEDA-VATA-RATA MAN SNAKE) The scientists’ law of gravity is a partial explanation of Lord Sankarsana’s energy. The name “Sankarsana” has an etymological relationship to the idea of gravity. There is a reference to Sesa Naga in Srimad-Bhagavatam (5.17.21), where it is said:
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>> yam ahur asya sthiti janma-samyamam
>> tribhir vihinam yam anantam rsayah
>> na veda siddartham iva kvacit sthitam
>> bhu-mandalam murdha-sahasra-dhamasu
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>> “O my Lord, the hymns of the Vedas proclaim that You are the effective cause for the creation, maintenance and destruction. But in fact You are transcendental to all limitations and are therefore known as unlimited. On Your thousands of hoods rest the innumerable global spheres, like grains of mustard so insignificant that You have no perception of their weight.” The Bhagavatam further says (5.25.2):
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>> yasyedam ksiti-mandalam bhagavato ‘nanta-murteh sahasra-sirasa ekasminn eva sirsani dhriyamanam siddhartha iva laksyate.
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>> “Lord Anantadeva has thousands of hoods. Each sustains a global sphere that appears like a grain of mustard.”
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>> Let’s look at this verse 5.25.2 which Prabhupada quotes as support for the fact it is universe:
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>> yasyedam ksiti-mandalam bhagavato ‘nanta-murteh sahasra-sirasa ekasminn eva sirsani dhriyamanam siddhartha iva laksyate.
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>> yasya–of whom; idam–this; ksiti-mandalam–universe; (see that word mandalam again) bhagavatah–of the Supreme Personality of Godhead; ananta-murteh–in the form of Anantadeva; sahasra-sirasah–who has thousands of hoods; ekasmin–on one; eva–only; sirsani–hood; dhriyamanam–is being sustained; siddharthah iva–and like a white mustard seed; laksyate–is seen.
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>> Sukadeva Gosvami continued: This great universe, situated on one of Lord Anantadeva’s thousands of hoods, appears just like a white mustard seed. It is infinitesimal compared to the hood of Lord Ananta.
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>> So when Prabhupada said Prithivi means universe that’s what he meant MAN SNAKE and your veda-vata-rata tactics to twist that to try and say it means earth and therefore it proves it is a flat plane of five hundred million yojanas is TOTAL SPECULATION TOTAL CHEATING TO PROVE YOUR TALMUDIC FLAT EARTH, IS WE CLEAR NOW????
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NO HE DID NOT!!!!! you learned that from the MAN SNAKE VEDA-VADA-RATA Mayesvara>>>>>>>>>
>> MAN SNAKE MAYESVARA WROTE
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>>> Prabhupada taught guru, sadhu, shastra. If guru said Jambudvipa is this planet earth, you need to understand the Vedic definition of (1) Earth and (2) Jambudvipa in order to understand what he means. You are repeating Srila Prabhupada without understanding the meaning of words.
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>>> Only 500 years ago, the Vaisnavas had the understanding that Earth is 4 billion miles in diameter and that Ananta-sesha is holding the huge circular Earth:
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>>> pancasat-koti-yojana prithivi-vistara
>>> yanra eka-phane rahe sarshapa-akara
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>>> “The universe, which measures five hundred million yojanas in diameter, rests on one of His hoods like a mustard seed.” (Sri Chaitanya-charitamrita Adi-lila, 5.119)
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>>> Although Srila Prabhupada has translated Earth as ‘universe’, the specific name for Earth is used (prithivi) and is measured at 500 million yojana (4 billion miles). The name Pritivi is used in the famous statement by Lord Chaitanya in the famous statement regarding ‘every town and village on the Earth’ (prithivite ache yata nagaradi grama).
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>> Mukunda dasa: Yes Man Snake and goyim slave of the jew resnick, Prithivi can also mean universe. Prabhupada said Sanskrit words have multiply meanings:
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>> Of course, Caitanya Mahaprabhu was not a fool, and certainly the Vedanta is not for fools. One needs sufficient education, and one must attain a certain status before he can understand the Vedanta. In each and every word there are volumes of meanings, and there are many commentaries by Sankaracarya and Ramanujacarya, huge volumes in Sanskrit. But how can we understand Vedanta? It is not possible. It may be possible for one person or two persons to understand, but for the mass of people it is not possible.
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>> Prabhupada SSR – Krsna Consciousness–the Yoga for the Modern Age
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>> Is we clear now man snake or Mr. VEDA-VADA-RATA????
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>> The veda-vada-ratas give their own explanations of the Vedas, neglecting the authority of great teachers (acaryas). (like prithivi means earth even when Prabhupada says universe) They (the prostitutes like Mudhadvisa and Mark Flathead) also tend to raise some unscrupulous person (man snake mayesvara) from among themselves and present him as the leading exponent of Vedic knowledge (like Vedic cosmology) . Such veda-vada-ratas are especially condemned in this mantra by the very appropriate Sanskrit words vidyayam ratah. Vidyayam refers to the study of the Vedas because the Vedas are the origin of all knowledge (vidya), and ratah means “those engaged.” Vidyayam ratah thus means “those engaged in the study of the Vedas.” The so-called students of the Vedas are condemned herein because they are ignorant of the actual purpose of the Vedas on account of their disobeying the acaryas. (taking shelter of an envious jew as his guru and neglecting all Prabhupada’s statements about the egg shaped Earth PLANET) Such veda-vada-ratas search out meanings in every word of the Vedas to suit their own purposes. (like when Prabhupada says Prithivi means universe he tries to search out another meaning like earth to support his talmudic flat earth doctrine) They do not know that the Vedic literature is a collection of extraordinary books that can be understood only through the chain of disciplic succession.
>> One must approach a bona fide spiritual master in order to understand the transcendental message of the Vedas. (Yes you have to learn from Prabhupada THE PERSON BHAGAVATAM and accept all his statements YOU CANNOT LEARN FROM THE ENVIOUS JEW RESNICK, and all the other TALMUDISTS, IS WE CLEAR???)
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>> Also Prabhupada confirmed the meaning of Prithivi as universe in the above verse you TWIST in Srimad Bhagavatam as follows:
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>> Srimad Bhagavatam 5.17. TEXT 21
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>> yam ahur asya sthiti-janma-samyamam
>> tribhir vihinam yam anantam rsayah
>> na veda siddhartham iva kvacit sthitam
>> bhu-mandalam murdha-sahasra-dhamasu
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>> SYNONYMS
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>> yam–whom; ahuh–they said; asya–of the material world; sthiti–the maintenance; janma–creation; samyamam–annihilation; tribhih–these three; vihinam–without; yam–which; anantam–unlimited; rsayah–all the great sages; na–not; veda–feels; siddha-artham–a mustard seed; iva–like; kvacit–where; sthitam–situated; bhu-mandalam–the universe; (NOTE bhu-mandalam can also mean universe) murdha-sahasra-dhamasu–on the hundreds and thousands of hoods of the Lord.
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>> TRANSLATION
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>> Lord Siva continued: All the great sages accept the Lord as the source of creation, maintenance and destruction, although He actually has nothing to do with these activities. Therefore the Lord is called unlimited. Although the Lord in His incarnation as Sesa holds all the universes (Bhu-mandalam) on His hoods, each universe feels no heavier than a mustard seed to Him. Therefore, what person desiring perfection will not worship the Lord?
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>> The incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead known as Sesa or Ananta has unlimited strength, fame, wealth, knowledge, beauty and renunciation. As described in this verse, Ananta’s strength is so great that the innumerable universes rest on His hoods. He has the bodily features of a snake with thousands of hoods, and since His strength is unlimited, all the universes resting on His hoods feel no heavier than mustard seeds. We can just imagine how insignificant a mustard seed is on the hood of a serpent. In this connection, the reader is referred to Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila, Chapter Five, verses 117-125. (119 is the verse you twist veda-vata-rata man snake) There it is stated that Lord Visnu’s incarnation as the serpentine Ananta Sesa Naga supports all the universes on His hoods. By our calculation, a universe may be very, very heavy, but because the Lord is ananta (unlimited), He feels the weight to be no heavier than a mustard seed.
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>> Here is the verse you quote man snake:
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>> pancasat-koti-yojana prthivi-vistara
>> yanra eka-phane rahe sarsapa-akara
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>> pancasat–fifty; koti–ten millions; yojana–eight miles; prthivi–of the universe; vistara–breadth; yanra–whose; eka-phane–on one of the hoods; rahe–stays; sarsapa-akara–like a mustard seed.
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>> The universe, which measures five hundred million yojanas in diameter, rests on one of His hoods like a mustard seed.
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>> PURPORT
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>> The Lord of Svetadvipa expands Himself as Sesa Naga, who sustains all the planets upon His innumerable hoods. (he sustains all the universes and also all the planets) These huge global spheres are compared to grains of mustard resting on the spiritual hoods of Sesa Naga. (So if you want to take it that prthivi is the earth man snake then Prabhupada says it is a HUGE GLOBAL SPHERE, IS WE CLEAR???? YOU CAN’T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS VEDA-VATA-RATA MAN SNAKE) The scientists’ law of gravity is a partial explanation of Lord Sankarsana’s energy. The name “Sankarsana” has an etymological relationship to the idea of gravity. There is a reference to Sesa Naga in Srimad-Bhagavatam (5.17.21), where it is said:
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>> yam ahur asya sthiti janma-samyamam
>> tribhir vihinam yam anantam rsayah
>> na veda siddartham iva kvacit sthitam
>> bhu-mandalam murdha-sahasra-dhamasu
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>> “O my Lord, the hymns of the Vedas proclaim that You are the effective cause for the creation, maintenance and destruction. But in fact You are transcendental to all limitations and are therefore known as unlimited. On Your thousands of hoods rest the innumerable global spheres, like grains of mustard so insignificant that You have no perception of their weight.” The Bhagavatam further says (5.25.2):
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>> yasyedam ksiti-mandalam bhagavato ‘nanta-murteh sahasra-sirasa ekasminn eva sirsani dhriyamanam siddhartha iva laksyate.
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>> “Lord Anantadeva has thousands of hoods. Each sustains a global sphere that appears like a grain of mustard.”
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>> Let’s look at this verse 5.25.2 which Prabhupada quotes as support for the fact it is universe:
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>> yasyedam ksiti-mandalam bhagavato ‘nanta-murteh sahasra-sirasa ekasminn eva sirsani dhriyamanam siddhartha iva laksyate.
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>> yasya–of whom; idam–this; ksiti-mandalam–universe; (see that word mandalam again) bhagavatah–of the Supreme Personality of Godhead; ananta-murteh–in the form of Anantadeva; sahasra-sirasah–who has thousands of hoods; ekasmin–on one; eva–only; sirsani–hood; dhriyamanam–is being sustained; siddharthah iva–and like a white mustard seed; laksyate–is seen.
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>> Sukadeva Gosvami continued: This great universe, situated on one of Lord Anantadeva’s thousands of hoods, appears just like a white mustard seed. It is infinitesimal compared to the hood of Lord Ananta.
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>> So when Prabhupada said Prithivi means universe that’s what he meant MAN SNAKE and your veda-vata-rata tactics to twist that to try and say it means earth and therefore it proves it is a flat plane of five hundred million yojanas is TOTAL SPECULATION TOTAL CHEATING TO PROVE YOUR TALMUDIC FLAT EARTH, IS WE CLEAR NOW????
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After clubbing the man snake i went for a drive and Prabhupada spoke the following
Prabhupada: Yes. By the grace of Krsna, a devotee can become anything.
Duryodhana-guru: So in other words that means the pure devotees can be omniscient?
Prabhupada: Everything. God is omniscient, so a pure devotee can become omniscient by the grace of God.
Radhavallabha: Srila Prabhupada explains that Varuna is omniscient.
Duryodhana-guru: Varuna?
Radhavallabha: It’s in Fourth Canto.
Madhusudana: Srila Prabhupada, how come that in the sastra sometimes there are verses that are slightly doubtful about…
Prabhupada: Whenever there is doubtful, go to your…
Madhusudana: Just like it will have something that has perhaps two meanings, (like prithivi meaning earth or universe) you can’t…
Prabhupada: Huh? There cannot be two meanings. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet. In order to understand, go to your guru. ( He said universe NOT earth)
Madhusudana: In other words, sometimes it says Krsna comes Himself, and actually the meaning is that He comes as His incarnation like Lord Buddha, but the verse seems to say that it’s the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself, and without your purport it’s not possible…, it’s almost left so that you can be fooled, as if it’s a covering, a special covering so that nondevotees cannot understand it.
Prabhupada: The Supreme Personality cannot come? It is said there?
Madhusudana: No, it says He comes in the form of Lord Buddha, but I remember it was a great misunderstanding that Buddha was…
Prabhupada: He can come in any form He likes, not particularly as Lord Buddha. He’s coming as fish, He’s coming as tortoise, He’s coming as boar, so why as Lord Buddha?
Madhusudana: But you explain that Lord Buddha is not visnu-tattva, but that He is sakty-avesa-avatara.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Madhusudana: But the verse says the Supreme Lord will come Himself, so one tends to think, well, Lord Buddha is the Supreme Lord Himself, but actually without your purport we wouldn’t understand that He’s sakty-avesa.
Prabhupada: So the sakti is Krsna. Sakti-saktimator abhedah. The sakti, energy, and the energetic, they’re identical.
Morning Walk
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June 8, 1976, Los Angeles
This is amazingly the quote Mahesh Prabhu used yesterday but for me Prabhupada was speaking on the point of two meanings in a verse. So the verse mayesvara the man snake quotes to support his talmudic flat earth with the word Prithivi can be taken with two meanings namely earth or universe. So how are we to know the meaning????? Prabhupada says “There cannot be two meanings. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet. In order to understand, go to your guru.” SO PRABHUPADA CLEARLY SAYS UNIVERSE IN THE VERSE AND OTHER VERSES REFERENCING THIS VERSE !!!!! But the man snake mayesvara says that Prithivi can mean earth so he takes this OWN meaning to prove the earth is flat and 4 billion miles in diameter going across the whole universe!!!! BUT THIS WAS NOT PRABHUPADA’s MEANING!!!! This is an example of numerous times this VEDA-VADA-RATA twists Prabhupada’s clear statements to support his talmudic flat earth!!!!
LOLing at Talmud Krishna flying under the flat earth!
I’ve only just started very recently following this site/blog and bitchute channel, but I can say that I really admire this knowledge of guru and scripture coupled with a mood of transcendental anger when dealing with these offenders!
Thanks Gustavo much appreciated. Hare Krishna. Jaya Prabhupada.
My mind is tormented, because I have more trust in ritviks than in the bogus guru supporters, but on this topic I have yet to be convinced. Also, it appears that ISKCON is ultimately going with the globe earth idea anyway in the TOVP, which raises more doubts. My impure intelligence sides with a horizontal plane conception of Earth for the following reasons:
1) If you argue that we have to accept Earth as a globe because Srila Prabhupada referred to Earth as a globe on numerous occasions, then we have to accept that Hitler was a demon, crooked, a rascal etc. But of course we don’t accept that because when Srila Prabhupada was asked specifically about Hitler, he called him a good man, a gentleman, with good sense, valiant, and said that he had no enmity with the Jews aside from their financing against Germany and didn’t kill so many Jews in concentration camps…. “They killed Hitler by propaganda.” They killed Vedic (flat?) Earth by propaganda.
So Srila Prabhupada often took the modern assumption of Hitler being a bad man or materialist dictator just to prove a point that has nothing to do with Hitler. Similarly, is it not good sense to argue that Srila Prabhupada referred to a globe Earth because that is the way everyone at the time understood it? Because in these situations he wasn’t making a point about cosmology so much as just giving analogies or proving the superiority of the Vedas and Vedic culture.
Prabhupāda: The reflection theory is the modern theory.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Because sometimes in the books it’s stated…
Prabhupāda: Yes. Sometimes I have said or taken this modern theory.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Just so that people will understand an example. I see.
But when Srila Prabhupada was asked specifically about whether Earth is flat or round, he never gave a direct answer.
2) Srila Prabhupada referred different words with different desciptions to the same thing. Bharata Varsha is translated as our Earth, but sometimes also as India. Bhu-Mandala, Jambudvipa, Bharata Varsha etc. are all translated as Earth, even though they are clearly described in SB as different entities with different measurements. Clearly Srila Prabhupada was just giving a translation that makes it a bit easier to read for us, who are not familiar with all these revolutionary Sanskrit concepts. The same thing with the Seven Islands and Oceans. Sometimes they are identified as our own continents and oceans, and sometimes as different planets with different oceans in space. If we just parrot Prabhupada literally without understanding, then we are going to run into insolvable contradictions.
3) Didn’t the Jews take some of their ideas from Vedas? Didn’t many ancient cultures have a flat Earth conception of the world? We know they faked Moon landings and therefore they faked Earth globe pictures. Why? To cheat the public of their money, yes. But also to propagate the demonic idea that the Universe is an infinite dark space without life, without shelter, without light, without Creator, Maintainer and Controller, purely evolved by chance. A flat Earth 4 billion mile conception of Earth spanning the whole middle Universe immediately makes the Universe full of life and light and purpose and design. Intuitively it makes more sense for the world to be made this way by God. Maybe it’s not the Jews who originated flat Earth, but the Vedas.
4) Even though Srila Prabhupada refers to the Earth as a globe many, many times and seemingly rejected flat earth, his last instruction or final order on cosmology was:
“Now here in India, we are planning construction of a very large ‘Vedic Planetarium’ or ‘Temple of Understanding’. Within the planetarium we will construct a huge, detailed model of the universe as described in the text of the fifth canto of Srimad Bhagavatam… The plans for this very large project are being taken solely from the references found in fifth canto Srimad Bhagavatam and its authoritative commentaries by important acharyas, along with other Puranas and Samhitas like Brahma-samhita etc.”
“We have to describe according to our book. That’s all. If they can understand, let them understand. Otherwise… It is not our business to satisfy the so-called scientists. We are giving the real description.”
Prabhupāda: Take the version of Bhāgavatam.
Bhakti-prema: Everything we conceived, that is wrong?
Prabhupāda: Everything you conceived, that is wrong. Yes. Therefore inconceivable.
Bhakti-prema: The Lord is inconceivable always and any (indistinct), it is inconceivable.
Prabhupāda: But we have to accept śāstra.
We have to consult Book Bhagavatam, the commentaries of different acharyas, the Puranas and Samhitas. As far as I’ve seen, the description of Bhagavatam points to a gigantic Earth plane with different islands and divisions. There is no description of a globe or multiple earthy planets floating in space. One can argue that bhu-gola or jambudvipa or bhu-mandala can be translated as Earth globe because Prabhupada sometimes did this, but this is not the same as a description or definition of the characteristics of the thing. The description is actually quite straightforward. A globe or a planetary system of solitary balls in space cannot be a plane of islands and ‘moats’ in concentric surrounding circles at the same time. Hitler cannot be crooked and a gentleman at the same time.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Look at the earth. Now, this is a real question that we still have to answer. They picture the earth round, and we say, no. Bhū-maṇḍala is like a lotus, like this, and the earth is only one part of one island in Bhū-maṇḍala, and it’s not, you know, it’s not round(?). It doesn’t look like that. And all the pictures they take of the earth when they go up in their satellites show round. And we’re going to tell them that it’s not. This is a very tricky question. In other words, if this is the picture of the world, like this, and we say that… If we take an airplane from here, from Los Angeles. Now, supposing we go to India, which is here. So there’s two ways to go. One way, you can go like this, and the other way, you can go like that. But if the earth is not a round globe, then how is it sometimes people go from Los Angeles via Hawaii to Japan and then India? So we can’t figure this out. We have experience, those of us who have flown, that actually the plane went from Los Angeles to Hawaii to Tokyo to Hong Kong and then to India. So it doesn’t work out in our maps so far, right? We can’t figure it out. This thing has to be very complete in its answers. Otherwise everyone will laugh at us. We can’t leave any loopholes.
Prabhupāda: So are you thinking on this?
Bhakti-prema: In the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam… According to Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, it is (indistinct).
Prabhupāda: Find out from our side, according to Bhāgavatam.
So TK says our known earth is just part of an island of the 4 billion mile Bhu-mandala, but the scientists show us pictures of globe Earth and Prabhupada orders to “think about this” and “find out from Bhagavatam”. If it was settled that the Earth is a tiny globe floating in black space, why would he order to think and find out? We have work to do basically. It is Prabhupada’s instruction to understand our Earth situation according to shastra and previous acharyas.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Do we accept the contour of the continents? Do we accept the general continents?
Prabhupāda: We accept nothing of their theory. They are prejudiced and nonsense. Formerly they were speaking that the world is flat. Now they have changed: “It is round.” So what is the value of his estimate? And you’ll find in that book, “probably.”
Nothing of their theory we should accept. So also not the globe. Prabhupada’s use of the word globe doesn’t make it a globe. Because “sometimes he has taken the modern theory”. Which we don’t accept.
An even moe important question on which I need to be urgently enlightened is the “omniscience” of guru. There is the conversation where Prabhupada says a pure devotee can become omniscient by the grace of God. But this doesn’t prove Prabhupada is omniscient. In other conversations Prabhupada calls that a wrong understanding, to say a pure devotee is omniscient. So in all honesty I want to understand very much why Prabhupada said:
Prabhupāda: And it was not possible for me to digest. (laughs) Somebody else helped me to… I am a layman. I do not know.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How did you write it?
Prabhupāda: That somebody, Kṛṣṇa, helped me. That He manufactured.
Yaśodānandana: And these mountains, they extend to the beaches. “It is considered, according to the Bhāga…”
Prabhupāda: When I was writing, I was praying Kṛṣṇa that “I do not actually accommodate all this knowledge. Please help me.” Yes. That’s all right.
So Prabhupada says that only by the grace of Krishna could he translate the fifth Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam. Otherwise he could not understand. So it is considered offensive to say Prabhupada didn’t understand something. But here he says he’s a layman and he brought in help from Vedic astronomers and his Ph.D. disciples, because ‘he doesn’t know’. So either he understands everything and he just acts as if he doesn’t ‘accommodate all this knowledge’, or it is as he says, he isn’t omniscient. He reveals the truth as far as Krishna wants him to.
It is said a liberated person doesn’t make mistakes, is never illusioned, has perfect senses and doesn’t cheat. But I have been wondering what this actually means. Because for example it was argued that Srila Prabhupada heard the poison whispers because he had perfect senses. But is that what is meant by perfect senses? Perfect senses are purified senses, which means they can perceive God in everything. It doesn’t necessarily mean omniscience. But I don’t think I understand these topics very well, which is frustrating. But I’m not sure we should take these 4 perfections in a materially sense, but in a spiritual sense. A liberated person may make a material so-called ‘mistake’, but it isn’t spiritually a mistake because it is under direct guidance of the Lord.
But I’m bringing this up because it is important to know the exact nature of guru to come to the right conclusions about the flat Earth topic too. Without questioning these things, how will one come to the right view? It seems we need to be offensive to make any progress, otherwise, if we are paralyzed by a fear of offending, we may not get the answers we need.
Hare Krishna
You can’t use the Hitler example i gave because there is no “contradictory” statements from Prabhupada on the earth HE NEVER EVER SAYS IT IS FLAT NOT ONCE!!!!
You say…”But when Srila Prabhupada was asked specifically about whether Earth is flat or round, he never gave a direct answer.” This statement is nonsense. In the bhu-mandala discussion Prabhupada said that they could go both ways round the earth east or west and get to India THEREFORE NOT FLAT AS TAMAL SPECULATED! He never rejected the understanding of the earth globe. RATHER HE TOTALLY REJECTED Tamals flat earth prejudice and affirmed that the earth is a egg shaped planet within a petal of the lotus. It’s clear if you read it without the man snake mayesvara influense. Then when Prabhupada was asked:
Bhakti-prema: It is written the world… The earth is round and flat.
Prabhupada: Hm?
Bhakti-prema: Earth is round and flat both, together.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Discussion about Bhu-mandala July 5, 1977, Vrndavana
How is it flat and round together that is also answered DIRECTLY by Prabhupada AGAIN as follows:
Letter to: Madhava
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Vrindaban
3 October, 1976
Boston
My dear Madhava,
Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dated 22nd Sept. 1976 and have noted the contents. Regarding details of the universe, be satisfied by reading only Bhagavatam. What is the use of reading other books–you are not going there. Some portion of the earth is flat. When you stand in any place you see flat, so for us to some extent it APPEARS FLAT, BUT IT IS ROUND.
APPEARS FLAT BUT IS ROUND>>>>>>>>>> so how does prabhupada define round????
Anda means it is egg-shaped, round, egg-shaped. Therefore it is called anda, brahmanda. Bhu-gola. Gola means round. I have heard that before the science, the people were under the impression that this world is square. Is it not?
Devotees: Flat.
Prabhupada: FLAT. FLAT, YES. BUT IN THE VEDIC SASTRA, MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO IT IS MENTIONED: BHU-GOLA. GOLA MEANS ROUND. JUST SEE. AND THESE RASCALS SAY THAT FORMERLY PEOPLE WERE NOT SO INTELLIGENT. THEY ARE INTELLIGENT BECAUSE THEY ARE THINKING THAT THIS WORLD IS FLAT. AND THOSE WHO HAVE SPOKEN MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO, “IT IS ROUND,” THEY WILL HAVE LESS INTELLIGENCE. JUST SEE. BHU, GOLA. GOLA MEANS ROUND. BHU-GOLA. SIMILARLY, JAGAD-ANDA. ABDA MEANS ROUND, JUST LIKE EGG. ANDA MEANS EGG. JAGAD-ANDA. THIS UNIVERSE IS EGG-SHAPED. AND WE CAN SEE ALSO, THE SKY IS ROUND. This is the wall of this universe.
Prabhupada Lecture Bhagavad-gita 1.43 London, July 30, 1973
EGG SHAPED, is we clear??????????????????????
First class rascal vegone pig brains says Prabhupada didn’t know about the cosmic manifestation described in Bhagavatam (your a mayesvara butt licker then) Prabhupada knew you would come around with your apa-siddantic philosophies and he knew i would kick your face!!!! IS WE CLEAR????
Demons are entering our atmosphere, see this video Prabhu, at 5,8 min Incredible. Black demons .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOiN8bqY6Mc
Prabhu, dont waist your time with mongrels. These people cannot read and cannot understand vedic texts. Of course earth is not flat and its not stationary. This assumption is maily from demons, because they want planet earth to be worshipped instead of the supreme god. These people are demons, they soon will go to hell.
Mainly.
The gods be with us.
all you flat earth rascals just got smashed ! You envious puffed up demons think you know more then prabhupada !
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