Anda means this universe. It is just like an egg. Anda means egg. All these planets and universes, they are made on the shape of egg. Andantara-stham. So each and every universe, Krsna enters as Garbhodakasayi Visnu. Just like within matter, when there is male and female, sex, it becomes just like a small pea. That is also egglike, emulsified.
And the living entity enters, and then the pea form becomes developed into a body. Similarly, without entrance of spirit, no matter can develop. Matter itself cannot develop. There must be spirit soul; then it develops. Pregnancy is formed when the spirit soul is there within the matter. Not that simply material secretion makes life. That is foolish understanding.
Prabhupada Lecture Los Angeles, January 15, 1969
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Real enjoyer or proprietor is Krsna. Bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram. He’s the proprietor. Sarva loka, not only of this loka, earthly planet, but there are innumerable planets within this universe and there are innumerable universes also, not one universe. Yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti. Jagad-anda means universe. It is just like egg shape. anda. You can see this universe, the sky is…, horizon. So it is just like egg shape. All the planets and the universes, they are egg shaped.
Prabhupada Lecture Bhagavad-gita 13.8-12 Bombay, September 30, 1973
Jagad-anda means… Anda, it is round. Anda means egg shape. We don’t say it is flat. Sastra never says, “Flat.” Then you correct, “No, no, it is not flat. It is round.” This is sastra. Long, long years, in the beginning, it was called round, anda. Goloka, go, Goloka, Bhurloka. Goloka means round. Goloka Vrndavana. Everything is round. So jagad-anda. Anda, anda means egg shape. Jagad-anda-koti. The each and every universe is egg shape; it is covered.
Prabhupada lecture Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.28.21 Nairobi, November 1, 1975
Anda means it is egg-shaped, round, egg-shaped. Therefore it is called anda, brahmanda. Bhu-gola. Gola means round. I have heard that before the science, the people were under the impression that this world is square. Is it not?
Devotees: Flat.
Prabhupada: Flat. Flat, yes. But in the Vedic sastra, millions of years ago it is mentioned: bhu-gola. Gola means round. Just see. And these rascals say that formerly people were not so intelligent. They are intelligent because they are thinking that this world is flat. And those who have spoken millions of years ago, “It is round,” they will have less intelligence. Just see. Bhu, gola. Gola means round. Bhu-gola. Similarly, jagad-anda. Abda means round, just like egg. Anda means egg. Jagad-anda. This universe is egg-shaped. And we can see also, the sky is round. This is the wall of this universe.
Prabhupada Lecture Bhagavad-gita 1.43 London, July 30, 1973
Some Startling Facts About Tibet
1. The peaceful buddhist country of Tibet was invaded by Communists China in 1949. Since that time, over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans have been killed, over 6000 monastaries have been destroyed, and thousands of TIbetans have been imprisoned.
2. In Tibet today, there is no freedom of speech, religion, or press and arbitrary dissidents continue.
3. The Dalai Lama, Tibet’s political and spiritual leader, fled to India in 1959. He now lives among over 100,000 other Tibetan refugees and their government in exile.
4. Forced abortion, sterilization of Tibetan women and the transfer of low income Chinese citizens threaten the survival of Tibet’s unique culture. In some Tibetan provinces, Chinese settlers outnumber Tibetans 7 to 1.
5. Within China itself, massive human rights abuses continue. It is estimated that there up to twenty million Chinese citizens working in prison camps.
6. Most of the Tibetan plataeu lies above 14,000 feet. Tibet is the source of five of Asia’s greatest rivers, which over 2 billion people depend upon. Since 1959, the Chinese government estimates that they have removed over $54 billion worth of timber. Over 80% of their forests have been destroyed, and large amoutns nuclear and toxic waste have been disposed of in Tibet.
7. Despite these facts and figures, the US government and US corporations continue to support China economically. This shows their blatant lack of respect for these critical issues of political and religious freedom and human rights.
Yes, things are bad, but you may still ask, why Tibet? There are hundreds of other countries in which equal or worse environmental and human rights devistation has occured. Why Tibet? Tibet can be used as the catalyst for change in human rights, womens rights, political, religious and cultural freedom across the globe. Through a concerted effort, the citizens of Earth can stand up and say “NO!” to the corporations and governments that continue to abuse it’s people and misuse it’s resources. The struggles in Tibet are symbolic for every human rights struggle. Please, get involved. There is only a limited time left until there will longer be a Tibet to save.
All the atrocities which are happening in Tibet, which you have enlisted, happened to European people under the Jewish movement called Christianity, But since you care so much about the Aryan race, you will turn a blind eye to such atrocities.
No not at all he isn’t showing a blind eye
Good video, but I wonder a bit why the USA is put there as a pseudo-winner or party that will be assisted by the German/Aryans from the Antarctica and not Russia. It seems like Russians are far more nationalistic minded and in better physical and mental shape than Americans. Seems like US military is less capable today than the Russians I think. They are full of degenerates. Look how USA could not even defend the Saudi oil plants against the simple drones from Yemen.
And I wonder how the universalism should be interpreted. Where does the line between racial territories and nations would be. Christianity is accused of being a tool for the Jews and globalists as it promotes universalism too-> “we are all one”. Now all the Churches tout the “love all and serve all” message that is like a tool to make us slaves to the NWO, instead of fighting back. Loving and serving the devil is against the Bible and also Vedic principles. We need judgement and hate at this point in order to identify the evil and destroy it.
But I assume, after all the Germans in Antractica are on the side of no one in this current system. They just wait both of the demons to kill each other off and then come and intervene.
And why many remarkable people like John Kerry and even the Patriarch of Russian Orthodox Church, Kirill, are visiting Antarctica. Kirill came back with very communistic message.
Is this what you mean that despite the traditional facade Russia is after all more communistic than America?
http://www.pravmir.com/patriarch-kirill-calls-antarctica-a-representation-of-ideal-humanity/
PUTIN THE JEW>>>>>>> https://truth.prabhupada.org.uk/putin-the-jew
“Loving and serving the devil is against the Bible”
No jew written (((Bible))) is a piece of crap, which is not even worth to wipe your ass with that,
And Serving devil is strongly recommended in that piece of crap,
Bible is in line with Aryan monotheistic tradition. The Adamic people are described as white. Also Prabhupada said Jesus Christ is the same spirit as Krishna. And there is prophecy about Jesus in Vedas as Isha Putra, Son of the Father.
http://esau.today/white-racial-characteristics-of-adamites-shemites-hebrews-israelites-judahites-of-scripture/
hello mukunda dasa, do you see the above comment,
this guy “holyabsolute” is claiming that dick mutilators(circumcision) are the ancestors of the white European people.
Christian Identity crap.
Mark knows about this connection, so you don’t need to educate him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXrFQhj-X0I
Europeans consist of the Adamic non-Israelites and Adamic Israelite lost tribes. The latter ones blended in later an took lead in forming modern European nations. In Vedas there is almost identical flood myth, just Manu instead of Noah.
The circumcision can be misunderstood or there is some mistranslation or it was made for those who were not pure enough in heart(as was the true meaning at least around Jesus’s time):
“Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, circumcise your hearts, you men of Judah and people of Jerusalem, or my wrath will break out and burn like fire because of the evil you have done” (Jeremiah 4:4).
Both Testaments focus on the need for repentance and inward change in order to be right with God. In Jesus, the Law has been fulfilled (Matthew 5:17). Through Him, a person can be made right with God and receive eternal life (John 3:16; Ephesians 2:8-9). As Paul said, true circumcision is a matter of the heart, performed by the Spirit of God.
In humans the glans resembles the heart in shape. So it’s highly metaphorical thing, as the glans is the most sensory area in man’s body. So one must be pure and opened in senses to be right with God. But I wonder if there has been some editing in Masoretic texts by the Edomites. As far as I know they have added some pronunciation marks that can change the words meanings completely.
Following the description of Srimad-Bhagavatam as it is, it is hard to conceive of earth as a floating egg ball. The earth could be flat and hollow at the same time if it’s thick, with the hellish realms deep underneath.
Devotee (2): Śrīla Prabhupāda, previously we painted in the art department… Just like Varāha lifted the earth, and the earth was a globe, and we showed also a globe of the earth. How does that relate to this? *Previously, when we painted, we showed the earth a ball. So now the artists will be very confused.* How it fell in the Garbha Ocean as a ball?
Yaśodānandana: *It depends on what we mean by earth.* The Western conception of earth is just five continents and a few oceans, but according to Bhāgavatam, *earth means Jambūdvīpa, because earth is connected with Jambūdvīpa.*
Devotee (2): So whole Jambūdvīpa fell.
Bhakti-Prema: Bhāgavata describes the height of Himalayas, eighty thousand miles.
Prabhupāda: No, about this earth globe.
Bhakti-Prema: *About the earth it describes four billion miles.*
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That means Jambūdvīpa.
Bhakti-Prema: No, that means complete earth, four billion miles. That is eight lakhs miles, Jambūdvīpa.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Four billion is the universe.
Bhakti-Prema: Bhū-maṇḍala.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhū-maṇḍala. Oh, *the Bhāgavatam describes Bhū-maṇḍala as earth*.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Yaśodānandana: Bhūmi.
Bhakti-Prema: …has come right from the ocean, from the bottom of the ocean.
Prabhupāda: So explained there. Then this question is solved.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. The whole Bhū-maṇḍala fell.
[So at different times, Prabhupada has identified Earth with the globe concept, Bharata-Varsha (in a letter), Jambudvipa and Bhu-mandala. So it depends on what is meant by Earth.]
Yaśodā-nandana: Past this golden land, until here, is the Lokāloka Mountain, which is the border between this Aloka-varṣa, or the uninhabited land, and the inhabited place. This Aloka-varṣa is constituted by a protective mountain that stops the rays of the sun to go beyond this portion. And it goes very, very high, it is described. It goes higher than Dhruvaloka. *So the whole planetary system of Bhū-maṇḍala is like a big lotus flower with very high, high petals.* It is very wonderful.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Which is that Lokāloka?
Yaśodā-nandana: This is the Lokāloka mountain.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Just see how much it is, Śrīla Prabhupāda. It’s like the whole Bhū-maṇḍala is protected by a huge mountain.
Prabhupāda: Karach.(?)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah. And only in the very center are the inhabited lands of Bhū-maṇḍala.
Prabhupāda: The sun is above them?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Not above Lokāloka. Inside, within.
Yaśodā-nandana: If this would be on the floor, that means Mount Meru would be 84,000 yojanas. Then, above Mount Meru, 16,000 yojanas above, is the sun. But then, so that the rays of the would not penetrate in that land all around, this great mountain, Lokāloka, extends all the way up to Svarga. So it is like a big, big cup, in which the middle of the cup, or the bottom, there is all of these planets, all of this Bhū-maṇḍala. And past this Lokāloka range of mountains is this Aloka-varṣa, which is described that there is no living being which can go to there. The only occasion where anyone went through there is when Kṛṣṇa and Arjuna went to see the Mahā-Viṣṇu in the spiritual sky. So Kṛṣṇa with His cakra penetrated through all of these regions, and then He went through all of the coverings of the universe who were there. That was the only occasion where anyone went to this land. So this is a general picture of Bhū-maṇḍala.
[So they’re saying Earth as we know it is just a small part of the “Earth planet”, “earthly planetary system”, “earth plane” or whatever we may call it and it is not shaped like an egg, but like lotus flower. Just like Brahma was born from the lotus flower from the navel of Garbhodakashayi Vishnu.]
Yaśodā-nandana: Yes, that was mentioned. His Divine Grace has mentioned it. So the total distance of all the seas was coming to about 496 [million yojanas]. So we understood from the commentary of Viśvanātha Cakravartī that there is a little space, vacant space. Between this vacant land there is a little guarded space, between this Aloka-varṣa and the covering of the universe, which is 1,700,000 yojanas on each side of the universe. And Viśvanātha Cakravartī explains that the reason for this is that under all the planetary systems there is the eight elements, which are sustaining all the Bhū-maṇḍalas and all the lower planetary systems. And if this is touching the side of the universe, then these elements would have nothing to do. There would be no function for them. Therefore, that is one reason… And another reason he was giving is that when Varāha-avatāra lifted the earth, if the Bhū-maṇḍala is touching the side of the universe, then there’s no place to lift it. Therefore, by his calculation… You have given then a very long purport with devotional senses(?). According to Jyotir Veda, like this, it was mentioned that there is little space between the outward part of the universe and Aloka-varṣa. That is the space, so that Varāha could lift up the earth from the Garbhodaka Ocean. (Prabhupāda chuckles)
[Bhu-mandala Lotus-like Earth is 496 million yojanas wide, a bit less than 4 billion miles.]
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Look at the earth. Now, this is a real question that we still have to answer. *They picture the earth round, and we say, no. Bhū-maṇḍala is like a lotus, like this, and the earth is only one part of one island in Bhū-maṇḍala, and it’s not, you know, it’s not round*(?). It doesn’t look like that. And all the pictures they take of the earth when they go up in their satellites show round. And we’re going to tell them that it’s not. This is a very tricky question. In other words, if this is the picture of the world, like this, and we say that… If we take an airplane from here, from Los Angeles. Now, supposing we go to India, which is here. So there’s two ways to go. One way, you can go like this, and the other way, you can go like that. *But if the earth is not a round globe*, then how is it sometimes people go from Los Angeles via Hawaii to Japan and then India? So we can’t figure this out. We have experience, those of us who have flown, that actually the plane went from Los Angeles to Hawaii to Tokyo to Hong Kong and then to India. So it doesn’t work out in our maps so far, right? We can’t figure it out. This thing has to be very complete in its answers. Otherwise everyone will laugh at us. We can’t leave any loopholes.
Prabhupāda: So are you thinking on this?
Bhakti-prema: In the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam… According to Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, it is (indistinct).
Prabhupāda: Find out from our side, according to Bhāgavatam.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They’ll want to talk about the point that the point on their compass that points west while they’re flying in the airplane, and they keep it going west, and they eventually land in India from Los Angeles.
Prabhupāda: You are flying west or east—you do not know. You are controlled.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They say, “No, our compass shows it. And you accept the compass.”
Prabhupāda: That’s all right. You are going west, but do you think where you think that the west is end, that is not end. You can go further.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They say it never ends because we’re going around the planet.
Prabhupāda: No, that is his dog’s mentality, going round. That is dog. He is thinking that “This is the area. Now I…” He’s controlled by superior power, that “You cannot go.” An example is… There are so many. There are so many stars, moons, and we’ll go there. But he cannot go.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They say, “We accept this premise, that we are limited.”
Prabhupāda: But then limited, you cannot say final.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: “But we say within our limited means we can understand that…”
Prabhupāda: And limited means if you understand that “I am bound up. I am going round the lawn,” that is all right. But don’t say that “Beyond this limit there is nothing.”
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, they don’t.
Prabhupāda: No.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But supposing that within this limit we accept that we are limited.
Prabhupāda: That is all right.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But we say that we’re going west and…
Prabhupāda: That’s right, west up to this point, rascal, not more than that. Why don’t you understand this? West you have gone. That’s all right. But up to this point, no more. You cannot go. You don’t say that there is no more after this western… They are saying that.
Śatadhanya: Yeah, they say, “Then west becomes east.”
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Right, they say.
Śatadhanya: They say.
Prabhupāda: No.
Śatadhanya: But why? Just because it is finished for them…
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Śatadhanya: …’cause they are limited.
Prabhupāda: Unlimited.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But how do they fly direct to India?
Prabhupāda: Unlimited way.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This question they’re still going to put. They’re still going to put this question, that they… We say, “Here is Jambūdvīpa, and this is Bhāratavarṣa on the bottom, and you cannot go beyond Bhāratavarṣa because you’re conditioned. You’re limited. That is our position. And within Bhāratavarṣa there is India. We accept that. Even we accept that. There are oceans. There are continents, seven continents, as described in the Bhāgavatam.” So their question is: “Okay, but then how do you explain that you can go this direction and you come out in India, over, back here?”
Prabhupāda: We don’t say that, that this direction, what you are saying, it is end. That is not. We say that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That it doesn’t end.
Prabhupāda: That you can go further, but you cannot go. Therefore you are thinking, “This is end of the position.” The same dog mentality. He is within that small area. He is thinking, “There is no more, other space.” That example is another, that bull. His eyes are closed, and he crushes the oil mill, going. He’s thinking he is going three hundred miles.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They keep the eyes blinded so he won’t…
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: …understand what’s going on.
Prabhupāda: Because in one place, simply going round, going round, it makes one mad. So those eyes are closed. He is thinking, “This is the end of world.”
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So you have said that, but still you have not given the solution.
Prabhupāda: This is solution.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You’ve explained it…
Prabhupāda: Solution is that you are thinking, “This is this.” You are making solution. You are making solution.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We’re trying to make.
Prabhupāda: But I say, because you are limited, this is not this. What you are thinking, “This is this,” that is not.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So what is it?
Prabhupāda: Kūpa-maṇḍūka, the frog in the well, he is thinking that “This is the whole water area.”
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then what is it? If it is not what I am thinking, then what is it?
Prabhupāda: That I am explaining. Take it.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But we can’t explain it. That’s the problem.
Prabhupāda: No, no, why cannot explain?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That’s the problem.
Prabhupāda: It is there, given in the book. What you are doing?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: According to the book, according to Bhāgavata and the picture that we have drawn, there’s only one way to go from America to India.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There’s only one way to go from America to India, not two—at least to our vision. So far, we have not been able to explain it. That’s our problem.
Prabhupāda: I do not… What…
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, I’d better… I can bring our diagram.
Prabhupāda: Here is America. Here is India. If you go immediately, then one way, that’s all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, only one way. But they go two ways.
Prabhupāda: Two way?
Śatadhanya: From New York or from San Francisco.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They can go from New York, that direction, or they go from Los Angeles, the other way. Either way, they come to India, and they say, “That proves the world is round ’cause we can go like this or we can go this way.” But we say, “No, you can only go this way.” But the compass shows I am going due east…
Prabhupāda: So we don’t say differently. You can go this way.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But we don’t say that. Because there’s no round, we say… Simply it’s a lotus. It’s not…
Prabhupāda: No, I… It is the same example. *Just a animal is bound up, so he’s going this round or this round, the same thing. But you cannot go beyond that.* [Maybe our Earth as we know it, is like a circle, just like a bound dog can go rounds around a pole but not further than the length of the rope? And beyond our known Earth is more Earth. So our know Earth can be round like circle, not globe, but beyond that there is more Earth. I have seen these ideas in videos on Youtube.]
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That they’ll… “We accept.” I take the view of the scientists.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. Yes. We don’t say. Suppose you are going round, you’ll go this round or this round, but within the round.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. But the whole question we’re saying is that we say, “No, you can only go one way.”
Prabhupāda: No, I don’t say.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But according to our…
Prabhupāda: If you are going round, you can go round this way or that way.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But there is no round.
Prabhupāda: Yes, it is round. You are thinking round. You are going round…
Prabhupāda: *Lotus is also round. Lotus, that petal is also round. Lotus petal is round. So within one lotus petal this round or that round, there is.* [There may be multiple rounds, like parts of a lotus.]
Śatadhanya: And within their own limited sphere they can go this way or that way. But they don’t know the whole shape.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We have to draw the shape probably, because according to what we’ve drawn so far…
Prabhupāda: That you can do, but real thing is we can remain within the limit.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That we accept.
Prabhupāda: So within the limit…Suppose the lotus petal this way, that way, or this way…
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You’re asking us to draw the details and make a planetarium very exact.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Lotus petal, it is round. So in one lotus petal you are conditioned. You cannot go.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So far that hasn’t been said, but that’s… You can say that Bhārata-varṣa is a petal of the lotus. But I think if you look at the Bhāgavatam, it may… I’d have to see it, what it says. There’s a statement that it may be the inner portion of the lotus. I don’t know…[break] And what we do, it has to agree with the Bhāgavatam.
Prabhupāda: Lotus petal… There are so many petals. You are conditioned with one petal.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That’s… If that’s the explanation, then it can be somehow adjusted.
Prabhupāda: You do not know what is going on outside.
Devotee: There’s so many round parts of a lotus petal.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, that part…That could be adjusted. But there’s a place within it, you know, the center part, there’s no petals. In the middle of the lotus there’s like a… I don’t know what you call it, but a… It’s a flattish area. They show Kṛṣṇa standing sometimes when they draw a picture of Kṛṣṇa on a lotus.
Prabhupāda: That’s all right. But your place is in.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That we accept.
Prabhupāda: That we have to hear from authority.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We accept that. I’m just thinking…
Prabhupāda: Unless you are obstinate, you have to accept if you are convinced.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We accept.
Prabhupāda: There are so many millions of stars and moons that we cannot go.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: As we are conditioned, as everyone is conditioned, our planetarium will have to show the actual facts.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That fact we have learned from Bhāgavatam.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So, so far we have not drawn this fact correctly.
Prabhupāda: That is your inability. That is another thing.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, well that’s why we’re… That’s the question that we’ve raised. This question that we’ve raised is due to that.
Prabhupāda: That is you are unable to, but the fact is that you are conditioned. You cannot go beyond that conditioned.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That’s accepted.
Prabhupāda: So we are also conditioned. But as far as possible we take description from Bhāgavata, try to. That is our… Suppose here is India, here is Los Angeles. You start from India, Los Angeles…, or India, you’ll come to Los Angeles. And again return to India. Similarly you start from this again going.
Prabhupāda: Bhāgavatam, one portion may not be exactly like… Just like if you are in the midst of the petal, you cannot understand it is petal. You see it is flat. You have shown in the map, there is a point so many miles. So that petal, middle portion, you can take it flat. It is not flat. It is curved. [Things can be flat and round simultaneously, acintya bhedabheda] Whatever conception you make, that is defective. Rascals. First of all you have to understand this. So don’t make it like this, like this, like this, like… Whatever it is said, that is all right. Therefore Kṛṣṇa said aśraddadhānāḥ. No faith. Faithless. [So we need to follow Srimad Bhagavatam exactly, and it doesn’t describe Earth like an egg. So Prabhupada may have said planets are like egg, but maybe Earth is not actually like a planet.]
Prabhupada: The frog in the well, he’s estimating, “This is the limit of water.” What he’ll understand about Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean? There is so many things. [Just like. “This is the limit of earth.” What he’ll understand of the big Earth? We’re confined in the well of our known earth. But beyond it there is the actual total Earth.]
Prabhupāda: Japan and Los Angeles and India, that is not the whole thing.
Bhakti-prema: Yeah, that is not the whole thing, but it is basic point.
Prabhupāda: Huh… *Insignificant.*
Bhakti-prema: According to Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, if we start from London…
Prabhupāda: That argument also I have refuted. Just like animal, he is bound up. *He is rotating around the log*, and within that there may be Japan, there may be Calcutta, there may be Los Angeles. You can think this is there. *But that is not all. Within that rounding circle, whatever is there, you may think this is all. But that is not all.* He’s limited condition. So within his limitation (Bengali). Within that limitation he’s speaking. But Himalaya and other things, far beyond their limitation. That I have already explained. He’s speaking within his limitation. Our position should be, correctly represent what is described in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. But if there is some question, we should ask. Just like I am answering to the reasonable point. That if you are conditioned, within your condition you can see, you can experience, but beyond that you have no right to see. What is Los Angeles, Calcutta, Japan, this is very insignificant space. And they’re talking of that. We are talking that Himalaya mountain, we have crossed over Himalaya, we conquered the outer space. How they can think of it? [The Himalaya of Srimad Bhagavatam lay also be different Himalaya than what we call Himalaya.]
Prabhupada: So unless you come to this standpoint that whatever is spoken in the Vedic literature, that is definite, you cannot be convinced by argument. [Again, Srimad Bhagavatam must be accepted as it is, no egg.]
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We just read… We got a version from South India, and we’ve even found that there are different conceptions of what the Bhāgavata is saying. But the Purāṇas, they give some Puranic references.
Bhakti-prema: It is written the world… The earth is round and flat.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
*Bhakti-prema: Earth is round and flat both, together.
Prabhupāda: Yes.* [A circle, or the top of a broad cylinder, is round and flat.]
Bhakti-prema: First we should reply it is acintya. This should be the reply. “Inconceivable.”
Yaśodā-nandana: If it is inconceivable, then they will say how we can conceive it?
Prabhupāda: Take the version of Bhāgavatam.
Bhakti-prema: Everything we conceived, that is wrong?
Prabhupāda: Everything you conceived, that is wrong. Yes. Therefore inconceivable.
Bhakti-prema: The Lord is inconceivable always and any (indistinct), it is inconceivable.
Prabhupāda: But we have to accept śāstra.
Bhakti-prema: This outer structure of the Lord is one with the Lord. It is inconceivable; it is not conceivable.
Prabhupāda: Acintya-guṇa-svarūpam. Acintya-guṇa-svarūpam. Yaṁ śyāmasundaram acintya-guṇa. Acintya. Govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi. Acintya.
Bhakti-prema: (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Give me that pineapple juice. [break]
Bhakti-prema: If it is inconceivable, then don’t try to…
Prabhupāda: We are not lying to you.
Bhakti-prema: …draw.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We’re drawing according to the Bhāgavatam.
Prabhupāda: We’re not conceiving it. It is already there.
Bhakti-prema: Then it is conceived, he says.
Prabhupāda: Conceived not by me.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But not by us. By the Unlimited.
Prabhupāda: I am imperfect. That is the difference.
Bhakti-prema: Yes. It is conceivable by you.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: By Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: By Śukadeva… Not even Śukadeva Gosvāmī. He says śuśruma.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: “I heard.”
Prabhupāda: Janmādy asya yataḥ anvayād itarataś cārtheṣu abhijñaḥ svarāṭ tene brahma hṛdā [SB 1.1.1]. Brahma hṛdā. This is Brahmā. Ādi-kavaye. The Brahmā is very significant. Ādi-kavaye. So it is coming that way.
About Prabhupada saying the earth isn’t flat:
Prabhupada: Sun is never out of the sky. It is in my eyes I see that sun is gone. Formerly these rascals were believing sun is dead at night. The Christians believed like that. Is it not? Some of the Christians believed that at night, sun is dead. And the world is *square, flat.* This is their knowledge. [So the earth is not flat, as in it is not square, and you can’t fall off it.]
Prabhupada: Bhu-gola. Gola means round. I have heard that before the science, the people were under the impression that this world is square. Is it not?
Devotees: Flat.
Prabhupada: Flat. Flat, yes. But in the Vedic sastra, millions of years ago it is mentioned: bhu-gola. Gola means round. [It is round, not square.]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20J87svy9b0 This I found interesting about this topic of flat earth.
About the changes in Srimad-Bhagavatam. Maybe they can’t adjust the various statements made by Prabhupada. I can’t. Because in 1.16.12, Prabhupada identifies Ilavrta-Varsha with the Mediterranean countries and Kimpurusha-varsha with Tibet etc., but in Canto 5 these varshas are explained as extraordinary and much bigger than these ares of our known Earth. And it doesn’t seem to describe Earth as an island floating in outer space. So I don’t know.
Jews today seem to qualify a brass ring as gold and gold as brass. The whole problem of modernity as well as the European is one: relativism. For this reason, the false scientist einstein was hailed as “the greatest,” of course he was a Jew besides, a satanic relativist. Of course, the europeans have embraced this and we are now facing the cultural collapse of an entire empire . The aryan empire because of this relativism of jewish satanism. I am not a pure aryan in blood, but I will of course try my best to follow this purity of aryan spiritualism. We need to be aryans, in blood and in spirit too.
Mukunda dasa(Mark Whitely),this user “holyabsolute” claims that you agree on Christian Identity ideology, is it true?????
Explain yourself.
He has made a reply here where I drew my conclusion from:
https://truth.prabhupada.org.uk/jew-shills-hertz-truth-a-message-to-renegade-tribune-kyle-hunt-sinead-charles-giuliani-chris-dorsey-nick-spero#comment-994
In this comment, (for which you have given the link) Mukunda dasa tired to illustrate Jesus was a not a jew, The problem is, he tried to illustrate it with (((bible))) which itself is crap in the first place to begin with, still for argument sake if we read through his comment, he tries to establish Jesus was not jew and he tries to substantiate his claim by using (((bible)))( which is a proven CRAP), but now a problem arises for Mukunda dasa here, Since he uses (((Bible))) to assert his claim, according to the same (((Bible))), the horrendous act of circumcision was carried out for JEWsus(which is a common practice among Jews till to this day), but Mukunda dasa made an entire series of video explaining the negative effects of circumcision, Now I think Mukunda dasa is going to reverse his stance on circumcision and he is going to claim, it is an ARYAN tradition to MUTILATE INFANT’s DICK.
There are two option left for Mukunda Dasa
1) Embrace circumcision, and claim it as an Aryan Tradition, remove his entire series of a video explaining the negative effects of circumcision
OR
2) Just ignore the circumcision story in the (((Bible))), to stick to his claim that JEWsus was “PURE ARYAN” , by doing that he must ignore the piece of crap (((Bible))), which proves my point of (((bible))) being a crap.
I don’t think that agreeing with certain aspects of CI is necessarily a bad thing in itself. Their genealogical and historical conclusions I think are mostly sound. I personally have a problem with it as it seems to me ilke sort of a Judaizer’s philosophy, in the sense that they say that it’s the white aryans that are God’s chosen people, instead of Jews. There is no God’s chosen people based on race (although I do think that possibly the white aryans have a greater possibility of being God conscious compared to other races). But it would be interesting to see what Mukunda has to say on the subject and in response to your unnecessarily challenging comment…
That was a reply to “Explain” btw. Mukunda can make his own reply to this highly offensive “jewritten” character if he thinks it’s worth it, but I personally wouldn’t waste my time…
“What kind of God is this who selects some people and condemns others” ~ Mr Mukunda dasa knows very well from whom this quote is coming from.
The whole idea of being chosen is utter filth and garbage. CI is nothing but Judaism for White people(Except people of other races to lick the dust of (((their))) feet)
The whole CI is complete utter nonsense garbage, anyone who is promoting CI must be SHUNNED.
But I am shocked and suprised to know many of Mukunda dasa viewer are CI lunatics.
I agree with you on the idea of a “chosen people” being garbage, and like I said, it’s a judaizer’s philosophy precisely because of that, but I still think the conclusions put forward by CI regarding genealogy and history are worth further consideration…
jewritten, you seem to be a person of color. Such hatred radiates from your outbursts, and envy for those who are more capable of guiding the world. The Aryans have that mission to lead the way, not to enslave others like Jews, who have perverted the whole meaning of being “chosen”. Abraham was not about mistreating others, but to bring blessing to the other nations who acknowledge that special task and won’t try to rise against the natural leadership. Even Srila Prabhupada said in ancient times, before the flood the Aryans were the kings of the world. Although imo his view was a bit incorrect in that Aryans would have originally come from India all the way to Europe, and not the other way around. What ever the case, that’s in line with Biblical idea. Abraham/Sarah=Brahman/Sarasvati. Krishna/Isha Putra/Jesus Christ
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3hl4r7
https://atlanteangardens.blogspot.com/2014/05/scientific-research-on-aryans.html
I am of swedish and norweigan descendant,
“not to enslave others like Jews”
oh really,
Isaiah 49:23 “….They will bow down before you with their faces to the ground; they will lick the dust at your feet. ..”
Hello mr mukunda dasa, you are okay with the above statement??? The above statement is a typical Jewish supremacist, and Jewsus embraced and upheld the OT,which implies that he expected gentiles to “lick (((their))) feet”
Now the CI people may claim the feet which gentiles must lick is the white european’s feet.
“What kind of God is this who selects some people and condemns others” ~ Mr Mukunda dasa knows very well from whom this quote is coming from.
There are similar stuff in Vedas too. Aryans of high caste were not very fond of the dravidian sudras and didn’t think of them very highly. That’s why the caste system was in place to prevent mixing with them. (unless it was there already before the Aryans came) If you are brainwashed with Social Democratic Nanny-State Nordic egalitarianism, it’s hard to grasp this ancient ultra inegalitarian stuff which was born when our ancestors were living among the other races. Even Jesus compared Canaanite woman to a dog and said he came for the lost tribes of Israel predominantly. Although there are ways to interpret that to cover others as well. He eventually healed the woman as she showed faith and humility.
Please go and travel India and you’ll see horrible discrimination there still today although the races have been mixed for a long time. So it’s time, place and circumstances. When White nations conquered the world most kings and queens did metaphorically exactly that what that passage says. They were received as White Gods, like the Aztects did in Meso-America.
But I know that can be interpreted today as if those were the Jews today that our leaders are bowing down for. It’s a bit nasty line I know, but for those with historical perspective and life and travel experience around the world it falls in place.
I’m going to make a comment now which may be just a form of mental speculation, but, as the bible isn’t vedic (i.e isn’t apaurusheya, not free from the 4 material defects) and is therefore somewhat open to interpretation, that line could be interpreted as “they will prostrate themselves before you very humbly”. Not that they would literally lick feet. Besides that, taking the dust of a spiritual master’s lotus feet is a recurring theme in vedic literature, so it’s not that odd (minus the licking part). Just some thoughts (I am certainly not an expert, so I admit I could be dead wrong).
Georgy veder
Johannes Lang published a book in Germany in 1938 and the flat earth psyop coincidentally was kicked off right when increasingly more people started to do their own research on his findings.
https://johanneslangblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/08/johannes-lang-the-hollow-world-theory-die-hohlwelttheorie-english/
The truth is always simple and logic. Only lies need to be covered with even more absurd lies.
https://johanneslangblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/08/johannes-lang-the-hollow-world-theory-die-hohlwelttheorie-english/
Of course there is a chosen race. Its the white aryan europeans. Dont be stupid. They are kshatriyas of dharma.