Impersonal Hodgepodge “It’s Not The Jews It’s Maya”

Yes we can say it’s ultimately maya but when Hiranyakasipu was here it was him, he was the demon trying to run the world or universe. People were naming him. They didn’t ignore him and just say “It’s maya” that is impersonalism!!!

 

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Madhudvisa dasa comment:

On this video Prabhu your research, with all due respect, is not valid. Krishna consciousness is not based on research work, it is based on param-para, disciplic succession.

You are ‘reading between the lines’ to insert your ideas about the Jews, Hitler, etc, into the teachings of Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada’s teachings are universal. When he speaks of a ‘sinsiter movement’ that is not limited to the jews.

Point is jews are materialists, they are very good at it, but there are many materialists and all are puppets in the hands of maya.

There are only two options. We can be servants of Krishna or servants of maya. There is no other choice. We are servants eternally. So it does not matter what label the servants of maya have, they may be jews, muslims, CIA, etc. They are all servants of maya. And it is maya that coordinates the activities of all the demons.

So this explains a lot of the conspiracies. Really such elaborate conspiracies can not be organized by conditioned souls all fighting with each other to become supreme. There is some ‘supernatural’ coordination behind these big conspiracies.

So the whole material energy is conspiring to destroy Prabhupada’s movement. It is all coordinated by maya. And the Jews, the Muslims, the CIA, etc, they are all just tools in the hands of maya. So it is all being coordinated by maya, not by the jews…

So we have to, instead of becoming puppets in the hands of maya, we have to become puppets in the hands of Krishna.

That is the point. We have to become pure devotees of Krishna and we can do that by following in the footsteps of Srila Prabhupada. That means preaching in the way Prabhupada preached. Prabhupada preached in a way as an example to teach us how to preach. So we can not deviate and preach something quite different on the basis of our ‘research work.’

Research work, in Krishna consciousness, is useless. We have to hear in the param-para and repeat what we hear.

So we have to hear from Srila Prabhupada and repeat what we hear from Srila Prabhupada to the people we meet. That will be very effective. In that way we can become conduits for the message of Krishna consciousness that is being handed down to us from Krishna through the disciplic succession to Srila Prabhupada. It is our business to hear it form Srila Prabhupada and repeat the same message. We have to transmit the message purely. We can not add anything and we can not subtract anything. We can explain it according to the time, place and audience, but we have to transmit the exact same message.

 

Mukunda dasa reply:

Yes we can say it’s ultimately maya but when Hiranyakasipu was here it was him, he was the demon trying to run the world or universe. People were naming him. They didn’t ignore him and just say “It’s maya” that is impersonalism!!!

So now we have international jewry as the Hiranyakasipu of our times, so we name them!!!! We don’t just say MAYA, total nonsense!!!! You are afraid to call a spade a spade!!!!

“That is my, not opinion, but is the fact. Things should be taken as it is. Call a spade a spade. Now, interpretation is required when things are not clear. When things are not very clear, not easily understood…”

Prabhupada Room Conversation, February 26, 1973, Jakarta

Of course we can research Prabhupada’s teachings!!! When i hear Prabhupada speak about the sinister movement or communism i understand the words more deeply as i know what these movements are as have study the world situation. You it appears are still living under the influence of demoniac lies or jewish lies which has manipulated the whole mindset of the people of the last 100 years. You will not be able to assist Prabhupada and bring the most favourable people to Krishna when they see you are more entrapped in lies and untruth than they are.

You are already program by the jews, Prabhupada was not!!!! That is the difference. Deprogram yourself my dear sir and see who runs the world and who has programmed you. When Hiranyakasipu was here did people say it’s maya or did they name him as a person? This “it’s just Maya” is impersonalism. Prabhupada wanted The USA to Be a Krishna Consciousness nation and defeat communism the greatest threat to humanity. That communism movement was run by jews. You are mind controlled not to criticize the jew and you claim to be a disciple of Prabhupada. Your conditioning from this demoniac jewish system is still very strong. YOU ARE SCARED TO NAME THE JEW. You say it’s MAYA. total nonsense total impersonalism, mayavada!!!

 

PRABHUPADA EXPOSES THE IMPERSONAL HODGEPODGE USED BY MADHUDVISA DASA

Prabhupada: Just like everything is material energy, but that does not mean this land is the sea. That is nonsense. That is nonsense.
Dr. Patel: No, no, it is not…
Prabhupada: Everything is material. Everything is material. If you say, “Then the land and the sea is the same,”…
Dr. Patel: Yes!
Prabhupada: That is nonsense.
Dr. Patel: It is not nonsense, and I’ll…
Prabhupada: Yes, it is nonsense.
Dr. Patel: I am giving you the argument.
Prabhupada: No, no, no. It is nonsense.
Bhagavata: Stool and sweet rice is the same.
Dr. Patel: As you are scientist, I’ll tell you.
Prabhupada: No, no. Scientist…
Dr. Patel: Please…
Prabhupada: No, no, no. I cannot hear this nonsense.
Dr. Patel: If you don’t hear, then there will be no…
Prabhupada: No, no! No, no! There cannot be. If you say the sea and the land is the same, this is completely nonsense.
Dr. Patel: Nonsense in this present circumstances. You change the circumstances!
Prabhupada: Any circumstances! Any circumstances!
Dr. Patel: Other circumstances.
Prabhupada: Any circumstances! You cannot say… We say that this is matter. But you cannot say that land is water, water is land. You cannot say that.
Dr. Patel: Would you please give me a hearing…
Prabhupada: No, no, everything is matter, that is all right.
Dr. Patel: That’s right. That is what I want to say.
Prabhupada: No, that I admit! That I admit. That is the difficulty of the Mayavadis. They cannot distinguish the varieties.
Guest (3): Land is the whole Brahman.
Prabhupada: Yes. The Mayavadi…
Dr. Patel: Whenever it is (?) a question of matter is evolved from maya. So we are Mayavadis, all of you and me.
Prabhupada: Huh?
Dr. Patel: Yes, because we are talking of maya.
Prabhupada: No, no. Maya means sakti. Maya means sakti.
Dr. Patel: That’s it. Then sakti’s of God.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Nothing can happen without the sakti. Nothing can happen without the energy.
Prabhupada: That’s all right, but the…
Dr. Patel: You cannot move your finger…
Prabhupada: But you cannot avoid the varieties.
Dr. Patel: But variety is produced by…
Prabhupada: Just like in your body, this is your head, this is your hand. Everything is body. But if you say, “Everything is body,” what is this nonsense?
Dr. Patel: How can it be nonsense?
Prabhupada: Ah! It is nonsense!
Dr. Patel: That particular…
Prabhupada: Why there is separate name, “This is head, this is hand, this is leg.”
Dr. Patel: When this thing, whole body, was in the embryo…
Prabhupada: Then it is called “unity in varieties.” That is called.
Dr. Patel: And I will… Shall I speak?
Prabhupada: Yes. But you cannot say the head and the leg is the same!

Morning Walk, March 23, 1974, Bombay